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hard disk power on time and lifespan

Posted: 2018.09.24. 19:21
by wolfgangam
Hi,

So , two general questions about the software.

1) my SSD power on time is 1637 days, which is almost 4.5 years, but it was purchased at the start of 2015, so it's off by about 270 days, is it normal? or it suppose to be accurate?
2) I've got 5 more regular Hard drives, which range between 2300 days to 3000 days power on time, so at the minimum, 6 years.... all of them get excellent 100% health and performance result (the SSD actually get's 99% health...), but I read online that expected lifespan of an HDD is 4 years, should I go by the program an not worry or it's better to start replacing them ?
is there any other factor other then performance and health that I should look for ?

Thank you.

Re: hard disk power on time and lifespan

Posted: 2018.09.25. 11:51
by hdsentinel
1) There may be some factors (power management, sudden power loss, firmware updates) which may affect the power on time of the device. But these usually cause that the power on time is lower than expected, personally never saw SSD where the reported power on time is higher.

I'd recommend to check the reported power on time for some time: write down the actual value and after 3-4 hours of use (no need intensive disk usage, just do not allow the system to power down/sleep) watch the new value. If the counter increased with same amount of time then yes, it should be accurate.

If you prefer, you may use Report menu -> Send test report to developer option (even multiple times: before/after such 3-4 hours). This way I can also check how the power on time counter of the SSD changes and verify if it's working correctly.


2) I'd recommend to check the Estimated Remaining Lifetime which calculated based on the actual health and total power on time of the hard disk or SSD, considering the designed lifetime and so.

This does not mean that the hard disk / SSD will surely fail in XX days, but can give a suggestion about when it may be better to plan (or at least consider) replacement, especially in mission-critical environments. SSDs with high health and hard disks (especially if they're perfect 100% in their lifetime until that point) may work for long time, sometimes even for years after the end of designed lifetime, but it is important to know that then unforeseen "sudden" failure are more common.
But this depends on how the drive used for years, for example power source, cables, connection, temperature/cooling, etc.

Re: hard disk power on time and lifespan

Posted: 2018.09.25. 21:43
by wolfgangam
Thanks for the reply.
1) checked as you suggested, seems fine, but I literally have the order confirmation from amazon when I purchased it on the end of Dec-2014.
2) All of the hard disks says "more than 100 days" , I wouldn't say the drives were used hard (not a lot of read/write...) but they did work non-stop... I'm not turning off my PC ever, not even sleep mode/hibernate.
my power supply was always best quality, connection I believe good as well , cooling probably average.

I did just notice the following note in one of them, although the performance and health is on 100%:
Problems occurred between the communication of the disk and the host 18321 times.
In case of sudden system crash, reboot, blue-screen-of-death, inaccessible file(s)/folder(s), it is recommended to verify data and power cables, connections - and if possible try different cables to prevent further problems.
More information: https://www.hdsentinel.com/hard_disk_ca ... _error.php

Here is it's full info if that helps.

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  -- Physical Disk Information - Disk: #4: SAMSUNG HD103SJ --

    Hard Disk Summary
   -------------------
    Hard Disk Number . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 4
    Interface  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : S-ATA II
    Disk Controller  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 9 Series Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller  - 8C82 (AHCI) [VEN: 8086, DEV: 8C82] Version: 6.1.7601.18231, 6-21-2006
    Disk Location  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Channel 3, Target 0, Lun 0, Device: 0
    Hard Disk Model ID . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : SAMSUNG HD103SJ
    Firmware Revision  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 1AJ10001
    Hard Disk Serial Number  . . . . . . . . . . . . : XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    Total Size . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 953867 MB
    Power State  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Active
    Logical Drive(s) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : H: [Local Disk] 
    Current Temperature  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 43 °C (Overheat)
    Maximum Temperature (Ever Measured)  . . . . . . : 50 °C, 24/09/2018 19:46:41
    Minimum Temperature (Ever Measured)  . . . . . . : 42 °C, 25/09/2018 19:06:12
    Maximum Temperature (During Entire Lifespan) . . : 55 °C
    Power On Time  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 2921 days, 12 hours
    Estimated Remaining Lifetime . . . . . . . . . . : more than 100 days
    Health . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : #################### 100 % (Excellent)
    Performance  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : #################### 100 % (Excellent)

    Problems occurred between the communication of the disk and the host 18321 times.
    In case of sudden system crash, reboot, blue-screen-of-death, inaccessible file(s)/folder(s), it is recommended to verify data and power cables, connections - and if possible try different cables to prevent further problems.
    More information: https://www.hdsentinel.com/hard_disk_case_communication_error.php
      No actions needed.

    ATA Information
   -----------------
    Hard Disk Cylinders  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 1938021
    Hard Disk Heads  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 16
    Hard Disk Sectors  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 63
    ATA Revision . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ATA8-ACS version 6
    Transport Version  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : SATA Rev 2.6
    Total Sectors  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 1953525168
    Bytes Per Sector . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 512
    Buffer Size  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 32767 KB
    Multiple Sectors . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 16
    Error Correction Bytes . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 80
    Unformatted Capacity . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 953870 MB
    Maximum PIO Mode . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 4
    Maximum Multiword DMA Mode . . . . . . . . . . . : 2
    Maximum UDMA Mode  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 300 MB/s (6)
    Active UDMA Mode . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 300 MB/s (5)
    Minimum Multiword DMA Transfer Time  . . . . . . : 120 ns
    Recommended Multiword DMA Transfer Time  . . . . : 120 ns
    Minimum PIO Transfer Time Without IORDY  . . . . : 120 ns
    Minimum PIO Transfer Time With IORDY . . . . . . : 120 ns
    ATA Control Byte . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Valid
    ATA Checksum Value . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Valid

    Acoustic Management Configuration
   -----------------------------------
    Acoustic Management  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Acoustic Management  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Disabled
    Current Acoustic Level . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Default (00h)
    Recommended Acoustic Level . . . . . . . . . . . : Max performance and volume (FEh)

    ATA Features
   --------------
    Read Ahead Buffer  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported, Enabled
    DMA  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Ultra DMA  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    S.M.A.R.T. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Power Management . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Write Cache  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Host Protected Area  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    HPA Security Extensions  . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Advanced Power Management  . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported, Disabled
    Extended Power Management  . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Power Up In Standby  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    48-Bit LBA Addressing  . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Device Configuration Overlay . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    IORDY Support  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Read/Write DMA Queue . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    NOP Command  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Trusted Computing  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Streaming  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Media Card Pass Through  . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    General Purpose Logging  . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Error Logging  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    CFA Feature Set  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    CFast Device . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Long Physical Sectors (1)  . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Long Logical Sectors . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Write-Read-Verify  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    NV Cache Feature . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    NV Cache Power Mode  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    NV Cache Size  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Free-fall Control  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Free-fall Control Sensitivity  . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Service Interrupt  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    IDLE IMMEDIATE Command With UNLOAD Feature . . . : Not supported
    Nominal Media Rotation Rate  . . . . . . . . . . : 7200 RPM
    Nominal Form Factor  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 3.5 inch

    SSD Features
   --------------
    Data Set Management  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    TRIM Command . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Deterministic Read After TRIM  . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Read Zeroes After TRIM . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported

    S.M.A.R.T. Details
   --------------------
    Off-line Data Collection Status  . . . . . . . . : Never Started
    Self Test Execution Status . . . . . . . . . . . : Successfully Completed
    Total Time To Complete Off-line Data Collection  : 9600 seconds
    Execute Off-line Immediate . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Abort/restart Off-line By Host . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Off-line Read Scanning . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Short Self-test  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Extended Self-test . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Conveyance Self-test . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Selective Self-Test  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Save Data Before/After Power Saving Mode . . . . : Supported
    Enable/Disable Attribute Autosave  . . . . . . . : Supported
    Error Logging Capability . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Short Self-test Estimated Time . . . . . . . . . : 2 minutes
    Extended Self-test Estimated Time  . . . . . . . : 160 minutes
    Last Short Self-test Result  . . . . . . . . . . : Never Started
    Last Short Self-test Date  . . . . . . . . . . . : Never Started
    Last Extended Self-test Result . . . . . . . . . : Never Started
    Last Extended Self-test Date . . . . . . . . . . : Never Started

    Security Mode
   ---------------
    Security Mode  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Security Erase . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Security Erase Time  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 154 minutes
    Security Enhanced Erase Feature  . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Security Enhanced Erase Time . . . . . . . . . . : 154 minutes
    Security Enabled . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Security Locked  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Security Frozen  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Security Counter Expired . . . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Security Level . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : High
    Device Encrypts All User Data  . . . . . . . . . : No
    Sanitize . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Overwrite  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Crypto Scramble  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Block Erase  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Sanitize Antifreeze Lock . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    ACS-3 Commands Allowed By Sanitize . . . . . . . : No

    Serial ATA Features
   ---------------------
    S-ATA Compliance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    S-ATA I Signaling Speed (1.5 Gps)  . . . . . . . : Supported
    S-ATA II Signaling Speed (3 Gps) . . . . . . . . : Supported
    S-ATA Gen3 Signaling Speed (6 Gps) . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Receipt Of Power Management Requests From Host . : Supported
    PHY Event Counters . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Non-Zero Buffer Offsets In DMA Setup FIS . . . . : Not supported
    DMA Setup Auto-Activate Optimization . . . . . . : Supported, Disabled
    Device Initiating Interface Power Management . . : Supported, Disabled
    In-Order Data Delivery . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Asynchronous Notification  . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Software Settings Preservation . . . . . . . . . : Supported, Enabled
    Native Command Queuing (NCQ) . . . . . . . . . . : Supported
    Queue Length . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 32
    NCQ Streaming  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    NCQ Autosense  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Automatic Partial To Slumber Translations  . . . : Not supported
    Rebuild Assist . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Hybrid Information . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    Device Sleep (DevSleep)  . . . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported
    DevSleep To ReducedPwrState  . . . . . . . . . . : Not supported

    Disk Information
   ------------------
    Disk Family  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : SpinPoint F3
    Form Factor  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 3.5" 
    Capacity . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 1 TB (1 x 1,000,000,000,000 bytes)
    Number Of Disks  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 2
    Number Of Heads  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 4
    Rotational Speed . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 7200 RPM
    Rotation Time  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 8.33 ms
    Average Rotational Latency . . . . . . . . . . . : 4.17 ms
    Disk Interface . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Serial-ATA/300
    Buffer-Host Max. Rate  . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 300 MB/seconds
    Buffer Size  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 32768 KB
    Drive Ready Time (Typical) . . . . . . . . . . . : 11 seconds
    Average Seek Time  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 8.9 ms
    Track To Track Seek Time . . . . . . . . . . . . : ? ms
    Full Stroke Seek Time  . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ? ms
    Width  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 101.5 mm (4.0 inch)
    Depth  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 147.0 mm (5.8 inch)
    Height . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 26.1 mm (1.0 inch)
    Weight . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 625 grams (1.4 pounds)
    Acoustic (Idle)  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 2.7 Bel
    Acoustic (Min Performance And Volume)  . . . . . : 2.9 Bel
    Acoustic (Max Performance And Volume)  . . . . . : 2.9 Bel
    Required Power For Spinup  . . . . . . . . . . . : 2,200 mA
    Power Required (Seek)  . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 7.2 W
    Power Required (Idle)  . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 6.3 W
    Power Required (Standby) . . . . . . . . . . . . : 1.0 W
    Manufacturer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Samsung
    Manufacturer Website . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/index.htm

    S.M.A.R.T.
   ------------
No.  Attribute                Thre.. Value  Worst  Data                Status                   Flags                                                  
1    Raw Read Error Rate      51     100    100    000000000000        OK                       Self Preserving, Error-Rate, Performance, Statistica.. 
2    Throughput Performance   0      252    252    000000000000        OK (Always passing)      Self Preserving, Performance, Statistical              
3    Spin Up Time             25     80     70     000000001863        OK                       Self Preserving, Statistical, Critical                 
4    Start/Stop Count         0      100    100    0000000000F4        OK (Always passing)      Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical              
5    Reallocated Sectors Co.. 10     252    252    000000000000        OK                       Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical, Critical    
7    Seek Error Rate          51     252    252    000000000000        OK                       Self Preserving, Error-Rate, Performance, Statistical  
8    Seek Time Performance    15     252    252    000000000000        OK                       Self Preserving, Performance                           
9    Power On Time Count      0      100    100    0000000111E4        OK (Always passing)      Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical              
10   Spin Retry Count         51     252    252    000000000000        OK                       Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical              
11   Drive Calibration Retr.. 0      252    252    000000000000        OK (Always passing)      Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical              
12   Drive Power Cycle Count  0      100    100    0000000000E9        OK (Always passing)      Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical              
191  G-Sense Error Rate       0      100    100    000000000001        OK (Always passing)      Self Preserving, Statistical                           
192  Power off Retract Cycl.. 0      252    252    000000000000        OK (Always passing)      Self Preserving, Statistical                           
194  Disk Temperature         0      57     45     0037000F002B        OK (Always passing)      Statistical                                            
195  Hardware ECC Recovered   0      100    100    000000000000        OK (Always passing)      Self Preserving, Event Count, Error-Rate, Statistical  
196  Reallocation Event Count 0      252    252    000000000000        OK (Always passing)      Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical              
197  Current Pending Sector.. 0      252    252    000000000000        OK (Always passing)      Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical              
198  Off-Line Uncorrectable.. 0      252    252    000000000000        OK (Always passing)      Self Preserving, Event Count                           
199  Ultra ATA CRC Error Co.. 0      66     1      000000004791        OK (Always passing)      Self Preserving, Event Count, Performance, Statistical 
200  Write Error Rate         0      100    100    00000000008A        OK (Always passing)      Self Preserving, Error-Rate, Statistical               
223  Load/Unload Retry Count  0      252    252    000000000000        OK (Always passing)      Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical              
225  Load/Unload Cycle Count  0      100    100    0000000000FD        OK (Always passing)      Self Preserving, Event Count, Statistical              

    Transfer Rate Information
   ---------------------------
    Total Data Read  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 3,241 MB,  3,358 MB since installation  (24/09/2018)
    Total Data Write . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 3,526 MB,  3,645 MB since installation
    Average Reads Per Day  . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 3,358.00 MB
    Average Writes Per Day . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 3,645.00 MB
    Current Transfer Rate  . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 0 KB/s
    Maximum Transfer Rate  . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 32970 KB/s
    Current Read Rate  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 0 KB/s
    Current Write Rate . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 0 KB/s
    Current Disk Activity  . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 0 %

Re: hard disk power on time and lifespan

Posted: 2018.09.27. 08:52
by hdsentinel
> 1) checked as you suggested, seems fine, but I literally have the order confirmation from amazon when I purchased it on the end of Dec-2014.

Then I'm afraid it was not really new when arrived.


> 2) All of the hard disks says "more than 100 days" , I wouldn't say the drives were used
> hard (not a lot of read/write...) but they did work non-stop... I'm not turning off my PC ever, not even sleep mode/hibernate.
> my power supply was always best quality, connection I believe good as well , cooling probably average.

Excellent, this is why they remain at 100% health after long time use (even long time after the end of designed lifetime).

Please check the link displayed in the text description: this gives information about the communication issues, how to diagnose and improve the situation (if required) and avoid such issues in the future.
The hard disk drive counts all problems ever occured in the lifetime, so it is possible that such problems happened long time ago.
Now the important is to make sure that there should be no new problems / issues, so the counter should not increase further.
Then by Hard Disk Sentinel, you can clear the error counter as described on this page:

https://www.hdsentinel.com/hard_disk_ca ... _error.php